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johny mac
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:07 pm Posts: 142
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| Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:51 pm |
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44AFrequenter
Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:15 pm Posts: 1675 Location: Larkfield
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What depot was he at? And how much service did he have? From what I've heard with customer complaints with First, unless you swear at the passenger or attack them, generally the customer gets an apology and travel tokens while the driver gets a slap on the wrist, or let off entirely, certainly a written warning at most. I ask about service because there was the rumor they were getting rid of those on the higher wage rate to cut costs, which I don't necessarily believe, but it's shocking if it's true.
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merlinbus
Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:59 am Posts: 862 Location: Lincoln
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The management of all the big companies are the same, as they`re scared for their jobs. If they don`t cut the mustard, they`re out, unless they are senior management, in which case, if they fuck up, they just change location, to do the same elsewhere. As for sackings, well if the rota is full and there are plenty of potential new drivers about, then fart at the wrong time, and you`re history. How do I know ? Well, I`ve worked for all the major operators and more besides in my 35 years of PSV work, and seen it happen and had it done to me. So in lean times, be a good boy, or girl or you`ll find a P45 isn`t a revolver.
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The Ned Hunter
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Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:21 pm Posts: 2171 Location: Scotstoun
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Even if there is a complaint where the driver is right and the passenger is wrong they will still get an apology and travel tokens.
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Daisy Dart
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:56 pm Posts: 8297 Location: Leeds
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Management at most bus companies have a nasty habit of believing the first thing they hear without evidence or considering the other sides story. Happened to someone at the new depot I was working at. A driver was alledged to have said something derogatory about a manager, the person got called into the office and promptly sacked on the spot. Their denial was not accepted and so they lost their job through someone else being a malicious snitch. I'm glad I'm not there now, the place is just rotten to the core.
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| Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:57 am |
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anon
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:45 pm Posts: 1759 Location: Leeds
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Daisy Dart wrote: Management at most bus companies have a nasty habit of believing the first thing they hear without evidence or considering the other sides story. Happened to someone at the new depot I was working at. A driver was alledged to have said something derogatory about a manager, the person got called into the office and promptly sacked on the spot. Their denial was not accepted and so they lost their job through someone else being a malicious snitch. I'm glad I'm not there now, the place is just rotten to the core. Sorry have i missed something Daisy? Have you left your new job then Daisy 
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Daisy Dart
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:56 pm Posts: 8297 Location: Leeds
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anon wrote: Daisy Dart wrote: Management at most bus companies have a nasty habit of believing the first thing they hear without evidence or considering the other sides story. Happened to someone at the new depot I was working at. A driver was alledged to have said something derogatory about a manager, the person got called into the office and promptly sacked on the spot. Their denial was not accepted and so they lost their job through someone else being a malicious snitch. I'm glad I'm not there now, the place is just rotten to the core. Sorry have i missed something Daisy? Have you left your new job then Daisy  Aye me and them have parted company.
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| Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:09 pm |
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anon
Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:45 pm Posts: 1759 Location: Leeds
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Well if you weren`t happy then i can`t blame you.No point doing a job if it`s pissing you off. I take it they have plenty of drivers to choose from then if they like sacking or upsetting people,because they won`t keep them contracts long will they.
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coachdriverjed
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:09 pm Posts: 2933 Location: huddersfield
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wow left allready? dont suppose ill ever meet you then lol
they will soon realise what a misstake they have made and then mr harvey will notice it and have words
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Route 66
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:54 am Posts: 2119 Location: istanbul
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i get this at work , when you do one thing wrong and they never trust you asgain 
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peanutbutter
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:26 am Posts: 3564
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First Management are worse then others compaines as there never seem to be around for long, thus don;t give a fuck what happens, of Im hear for a year , If I fuck up the next person can dell with it, and so on......
ONe bastard that is should have be gone is LOCKHEAD!
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Haggis
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:17 pm Posts: 2276 Location: The Scottish Wilderness
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Are you driving buses now Peanuts???
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Daisy Dart
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:56 pm Posts: 8297 Location: Leeds
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peanutbutter wrote: First Management are worse then others compaines as there never seem to be around for long, thus don;t give a fuck what happens, of Im hear for a year , If I fuck up the next person can dell with it, and so on......
ONe bastard that is should have be gone is LOCKHEAD! I might have agreed with that until very recently. Yes there really is a bus company that has worse managers than First!!! 
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Daisy Dart
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:56 pm Posts: 8297 Location: Leeds
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Route 66 wrote: i get this at work , when you do one thing wrong and they never trust you asgain  Tell me about it!! I am fed up with being the victim of ignorant manager's wrong assumptions!!
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| Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:59 am |
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freedompaisley
Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:16 pm Posts: 1190 Location: Paisley
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Daisy Dart wrote: Route 66 wrote: i get this at work , when you do one thing wrong and they never trust you asgain  Tell me about it!! I am fed up with being the victim of ignorant manager's wrong assumptions!! You should move up here and work in gods country.
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Dannyboy
Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 10:46 pm Posts: 54 Location: Newcastle (Walkergate)
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It's quite different here. Drivers are quite often given the benefit of the doubt in customer complaints, and if its a serious allegation, they get a lip-reader in for the CCTV. You're always in the office, but its often just a chat to get your side of the story. The only thing that isn't acceptable (obviously), is fiddling the company, or 'ticket descrepencies (sp?)', but I mean, thats essentially fraud. I mean a couple of weeks ago a driver had a bump in front of the Assistant Operations Manager... totally his fault so the AOM went and started bollicking him... the driver turned round and said "ah, will you fuck off and disappear!'. The AOM went "I beg your pardon", and the driver just went "[AOM's Name], I can't be arsed with ya, will you just fuck off and leave me alone, you jumped up cunt"... After all that, he's still driving, so the other AOM must've sympathised with the driver 
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THE ROADKILL RAPIST
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:31 pm Posts: 117 Location: A9 scotland
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Dannyboy wrote: It's quite different here. Drivers are quite often given the benefit of the doubt in customer complaints, and if its a serious allegation, they get a lip-reader in for the CCTV. You're always in the office, but its often just a chat to get your side of the story. The only thing that isn't acceptable (obviously), is fiddling the company, or 'ticket descrepencies (sp?)', but I mean, thats essentially fraud. I mean a couple of weeks ago a driver had a bump in front of the Assistant Operations Manager... totally his fault so the AOM went and started bollicking him... the driver turned round and said "ah, will you fuck off and disappear!'. The AOM went "I beg your pardon", and the driver just went "[AOM's Name], I can't be arsed with ya, will you just fuck off and leave me alone, you jumped up cunt"... After all that, he's still driving, so the other AOM must've sympathised with the driver  A.O.M = ADULT ORIENTATED MULE 
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| Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:24 pm |
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Daisy Dart
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Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:56 pm Posts: 8297 Location: Leeds
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freedompaisley wrote: Daisy Dart wrote: Route 66 wrote: i get this at work , when you do one thing wrong and they never trust you asgain  Tell me about it!! I am fed up with being the victim of ignorant manager's wrong assumptions!! You should move up here and work in gods country. There is no such thing as God, so how can there be a God's country??? 
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Tanzer
Joined: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:50 pm Posts: 19
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Do First Glasgow have cctv on all their buses?Would help the driver if they are being wrongly accused of something?
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| Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:53 pm |
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phead_driver
Joined: Mon May 25, 2009 6:25 pm Posts: 106 Location: Parkhead
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Tanzer wrote: Do First Glasgow have cctv on all their buses?Would help the driver if they are being wrongly accused of something? On all the new buses they do but the older relics they barely have interior lighting never mind cameras. Plus even with the new buses if you keep your hand at the cab window you can give a two fingered salute while saying " i am sorry you are so upset sir " and when they kick off the punters just think it is a nutter. I know a driver who told a junkie to have some respect as his taxes pay his benefits and the junkie went ape shit kicking the cab door and everything. Junkie with a conscience? who would have believed it.
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